The short version
- A reason code records which box a rep chose from a list written before the losses happened. Keep the buyer's sentences instead.
- Do not ask the buyer to write it up. A survey to a leadership team on one ghostwriting programme returned six responses, none usable.
- Split writing the record from reading it. On a 255-page content build, generation and verification ran as separate passes because run together the confident pass wins.
- Act the second time the same wording appears. Our editorial rules on one client newsletter were written at issue 20.
A win-loss record tells you which option a rep picked from a dropdown at the moment they closed the deal. A dropdown returns only the choices somebody wrote before those deals existed, so the report built out of it counts picks rather than reasons. What moves positioning is the buyer’s own wording, and almost nobody keeps it.
What should a win-loss record contain?
Two things the form has no field for: the buyer’s own wording, and the alternative they named when they said no. A third is where the deal changed direction, which a closing note misses because it is written from the end.
A reason code carries none of that. Price, timing, competitor, no decision. Four boxes configured by somebody forecasting which losses were coming, and a rep clearing records at quarter end picks the nearest. Count those picks a year later and the count gets presented as evidence.
What each kind of record can carry:
| Record | Who produces it | What it supports | Where it thins out |
|---|---|---|---|
| Dropdown reason code | The rep, clearing the record | A count by category | Categories fixed before these deals existed |
| Free-text note at close | The rep, from memory | Recall of one deal | Written from the end, to close a record |
| Written questionnaire | The buyer, unpaid | Whatever they will draft | A drafting task for somebody with no reason to do it |
| Debrief interview | Someone off the deal | The comparison set, and where it turned | Needs a person and a calendar slot |
| The call recording | Nobody. It exists already | Objections in order, in the buyer’s phrasing | Consent, plus somebody has to listen |
Why do win-loss surveys come back empty?
Because a questionnaire moves the writing onto the person with the least reason to do it.
We hit that on a ghostwriting programme rather than a win-loss one, and the mechanism carries over. A written survey went to a leadership team at a global consulting firm. Six responses came back, none specific enough to build a paragraph on. The thinking existed, in recordings of conversations those people were already having.
A buyer who has just chosen somebody else has less reason still. More in why executives will not fill in your form.
Who reads the records, and when?
Somebody who was not on the deal, reading the whole set in one pass rather than a record at a time.
We learned that ordering on a 255-page content build, where generation ran as one pass and verification as another. Generation is cheap and arrives sure of itself. The whole job of verification is to disagree with it, which takes longer. Run them together and the sure half wins, and a debrief typed an hour after the call is the sure half.
On a batch of our own posts, one-line source entries produced invented supporting detail that survived a repair pass, because the writers closed the gap themselves. A short CRM note gets completed the same way by whoever reads it next.
What do you do when the same reason appears twice?
Change something, and put a name against the change.
Our editorial rules on one client newsletter were written at issue 20 rather than issue 1, because that is when it became clear the same notes were being given twice. Eleven issues have since gone out under nine standing rules and a QA script.
The second time an objection arrives in the same words, it becomes an edit to a page or a new qualification question.
The categories in your loss-reason dropdown were written before any of the losses happened.
What has to be true of the CRM first?
It has to hold a history rather than a snapshot.
One audit we ran found roughly 98% of a client database sitting in the stage those contacts were created in, with no automation to move anybody out. It proved the contacts existed and said nothing about what happened to them.
Notes die the way stages die, because both wait on a person remembering rather than a trigger firing. Attach the debrief to a stage change that already gets recorded, or you keep only the deals somebody felt strongly about.
The longer versions of both are in the recordings you already have and auditing the CRM first.
Frequently asked questions
What is win-loss analysis?
A structured review of why deals closed the way they did, built from what the buyer said rather than from a reason field. What makes it usable is their wording and the alternative they compared you against.
What questions should you ask in a win-loss interview?
Ask what they were doing before they started looking, who else was in the room, which alternatives they compared, and what would have changed the answer.
Who should run win-loss interviews?
Somebody who was not on the deal. A buyer will not tell the rep they rejected what actually decided it, and that rep already carries the version they typed at close.
How many win-loss interviews do you need before acting?
Act on the second appearance of the same wording rather than on a target count. Waiting for a comfortable sample size means sitting through the losses that produce it.
Why do win-loss surveys get such low response rates?
A questionnaire is a drafting task sent to somebody with no reason to complete it. On one ghostwriting programme a written survey to a leadership team returned six responses, none of them usable.
Can you use recorded sales calls for win-loss analysis?
Yes, and a recording usually beats a debrief, because it holds the objection in the order it arrived and in the buyer's own phrasing. Consent has to cover that use.
Sources
- Chua Network delivery data across 8 client accounts (internal fact bank)
- Chua Network engagement records, anonymized (internal experience bank)